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Obama Visits Marc Maron's Garage; Cats Annoyed They Were Shut In Bedroom

Comedian Marc Maron's WTF podcast might not seem like the place for a typical presidential interview, but several months ago the White House reached out to Maron to see if he'd be interested in having Barack Obama as his guest. "I just didn't think that it would ever happen," Maron says.

But it did — on Friday, the president came to Maron's garage and spent some time talking about race relations, fatherhood, fitting in, and more. The interview was posted Monday morning — you can listen to it here. Maron spoke with Fresh Air's Terry Gross on Friday, a few hours after the interview.

Interview Highlights

On the White House reaching out

I'm like, "What do I do, do I go to Washington? Do I go to his hotel? What happens?" And [my producer] Brendan says, "They said they want to do it at the garage." I'm like, "That's insane! The president is just going to come over to my house? My two bedroom, one bathroom house and sit in my broken-down garage?" It's where everybody [who I interview] sits, it is the place where [the podcast] happens, but I couldn't even wrap my brain around it.

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On cleaning up the garage for the president

I have a lot of clutter on the desk and the Secret Service certainly helped me with that. I have like a pocket knife on my desk, I have half a hammer, like this weird hammer that's broken ... they were like, "Yeah, the knife and the hammer gotta go."

On the safety precautions that were taken

There was a sniper on the roof next door. ... There was a bunch of L.A.P.D. on the periphery, down at the bottom of the hill that I live on. ... There were Secret Service people all over the place, and that's how it went. There was a Secret Service guy behind me during the interview who I didn't see at all. I was so intent on focusing on the president.

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On Obama putting him at ease

It's a rare thing — because you read about the president, or see people's reactions to the president, or you have whatever your feelings are about the president on a day-to-day basis. ... But to really be in the presence of somebody who is the president and has been for eight years ... and to feel the incredible charisma and ease at which this guy handles himself. ... I was a bit of a nervous wreck and he immediately put me at ease. I don't know how, I'm not easy to put at ease. I'm a nutbag.

On when it was all over

I cried a little bit, right in front of Brendan. It was a weird moment for us, he handled it pretty well. ... A crew of people came and they started disassembling the tents that were on my driveway and then all the Secret Service got their stuff and they just were gone, it was all gone. I let my cats out of the bedroom ... and they were like, "Can we have our house back, please?"

Martha Stewart Living To Be Bought By Sequential For $353 Million

People who love to craft sparkly holiday dcor and make their own milk carton citrus soaps have looked to Martha Stewart for more than 20 years. And today, the upscale DIY queen's company is at the center of what Stewart calls "a transformational merger."

Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia says in a statement that it has agreed to be acquired by Sequential Brands Group.

"The Sequential team is smart, hardworking, and understands the power and limitless opportunity of the Martha Stewart brand and its formidable design, editorial and marketing teams. I'm looking forward to working with them," Stewart says in the release.

NPR's Yuki Noguchi reports that Sequential Brands will pay $353 million in cash and stock to add Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia to its portfolio. Stewart will remain the Chief Creative Officer in the deal.

The deal, which is still subject to shareholder approval, is expected to close sometime in the second half of the year, according to The Associated Press:

"Sequential Brands Group Inc., which owns and licenses a number of consumer brands including Ellen Tracy, Jessica Simpson and Linens 'n Things, will pay $6.15 per share. That is below the company's Friday closing price of $6.98. Shares tumbled 14 percent in early trading."

Sequential is known for has become a big consolidator of other well-known brands in recent years, like Justin Timberlake's denim brand, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Yuki says Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia was worth about $2 billion when it went public in 1999. But it has been struggling against online competition.

"Ms. Stewart served a breakfast of scones, croissants and fresh-squeezed orange juice in a tent outside the New York Stock Exchange that day," wrote the Journal.

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Israel Bets On Recycled Water To Meet Its Growing Thirst

Recycling sewage water has helped free Israel, a desert country, from depending on rain.

Treated sewage water provides close to a quarter of Israel's demand for water, right behind desalination, the other major process that has eased Israel's fear of drought.

But making that water — from toilets, showers, and factories — clean enough to use is challenging.

One of the first steps is removing garbage from the sewage system. At Israel's biggest wastewater treatment plant, called Shafdan, three-quarters of that garbage is one thing: wet wipes.

"Every day we're dealing with 30 tons of wet wipes," says Meir Ben Noon, chief tour guide at the plant.

That's not all.

"We also have a lot of weird things, like earrings, rings, and even cell phones, that people lose every day in our pipes," Noon says.

Parallels

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The jewelry goes to the Israeli treasury. Cell phone components get recycled or trashed.

Only then does the real cleaning begin.

Parallels

The West Bank Battle For Land ... And Water

That work is done by sewage-munching microbes. They're too small to see in the big concrete ponds outside the Shafdan facility, but slowly they turn the water from muddy to clear.

Parallels

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The microbes need air as well as food, so pumps steadily churn air into the ponds. The pumps require energy — a significant cost of cleaning sewage water.

Cutting The Power Bill

To save money and make the system more environmentally friendly, Shafdan is now building a system to trap methane from decomposing microbes, known as sludge, and use that gas to power the plant.

The sludge is heated slowly to kill the microbes and any remaining pathogens, like viruses. It is then used as compost.

"The gases coming out from the same process will give power, which is the energy, the electricity, that will supply most of this facility," Noon says.

Israel's water authority says Israel uses a much higher percent of its treated sewage for irrigation than any other country — 86 percent, with Spain next at 19 percent.

So entrepreneurs are also experimenting with other ways to cut the energy bill.

About 40 miles north of the huge Shafdan plant, 10 white tanks hold microbes eating sewage water.

This is an experimental sewage treatment site. The basic process is the same as at Shafdan — microbes munching sewage solids — but this process uses much less energy, says Eytan Levy, CEO of the startup, Emefcy, which runs this pilot project.

Levy's company has developed a way to diffuse oxygen into the water through a thin plastic membrane that lets air pass through, but not liquid.

"It lets air in without the need to blow bubbles" into the water, Levy says.

This cuts the energy bill.

In addition, Levy's company is trying to capture electricity, not through methane from decomposing microbes, but from the live microbes as they eat.

"It starts from the idea that the organic contamination in the waste water is in fact a fuel, Levy says. "We spend a lot of electricity getting rid of this fuel. And you ask yourself, why can't we utilize this energy?"

He admits the concept is futuristic. But in Israel, efficient treatment of sewage water is a current issue. Half the water for Israel's farms comes from treated sewage water.

Keeping Pharmaceuticals Out Of Crops

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Farmer Efi Cohen inspects almond trees on a kibbutz south of Jerusalem. The Israeli government says it's safe to use treated sewage water to irrigate tree fruit, but not all crops. Emily Harris/NPR hide caption

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Farmer Efi Cohen inspects almond trees on a kibbutz south of Jerusalem. The Israeli government says it's safe to use treated sewage water to irrigate tree fruit, but not all crops.

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The Shafdan plant sends all its water to the Negev desert, where the government has long promoted agriculture development. Farms elsewhere depend on water from smaller treatment plants.

Near an almond grove at the Kibbutz Netiv HaLamed He in the hills south of Jerusalem, Efi Cohen shows off the communal farm's local sewage treatment plant.

It's a big concrete tank with a red pipe coming out. The pipe dumps water into a pond, making a frothy foam.

Red pipes show this is not drinking water, Cohen says. But it is water for crops. The water comes from the toilets, showers, sinks and even chip manufacturing plants in nearby communities.

The treatment process here is less sophisticated than at the Shafdan plant, and government regulations allow Cohen to use this water only on "dry" crops, meaning those — like almonds — that don't come into direct contact with the treated water.

For watermelon or cucumbers, he still needs rain or water that is safe for drinking.

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In Israel, a red pipeline means the water is unsafe to drink. Here a pipeline carries locally treated sewage to a holding pond, where it will be pumped out for irrigation. Emily Harris/NPR hide caption

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In Israel, a red pipeline means the water is unsafe to drink. Here a pipeline carries locally treated sewage to a holding pond, where it will be pumped out for irrigation.

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Cohen likes the price of recycled sewage — it's cheaper than piped-in potable water. But soil chemist Benny Chefetz says even the highest quality recycled sewage has trace pollutant elements that are not regulated.

At Hebrew University's Smith Faculty of Agriculture, Chefetz studies the effect that elements from pharmaceuticals and personal care products in treated sewage have on soil and food when used for irrigation.

In a small lab, he is dosing cucumbers with anti-epilepsy medications that break down very slowly in the soil. Chefetz says how trace chemicals in water move into food depends on the chemical, the crop and the soil quality.

There is a lot to learn, he says.

"We have no idea what [are] the consequences," he says, if a child is continuously exposed to even tiny amounts of medications by eating carrots or cucumbers.

He says it's important to figure out what's safe, because using treated sewage water is important.

"I'm not saying we need to stop irrigating with treated waste water," he stresses, noting agriculture in Israel and other Mideast countries is dependent on this source. "We don't want to stop irrigation, we want to continue, knowing that it's safe."

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When The Local Paper Closes, Where Does The Community Turn?

When Betsy Freeman moved to Damascus, Md., 30 years ago, the first thing she looked for was a local community newspaper.

Along with meeting her new neighbors, Freeman met the Gazette.

"The Gazette papers were the thing that really welcomed you into the community," she says.

She's now mourning the loss of the Montgomery and Prince George's county Gazettes, which closed their doors last week after more than 55 years.

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The Gazette in Montgomery County, Md., closed its doors this week.

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But what is it like to live in a community when your favorite paper shuts down?

"You lose that individual feel that our town matters," Freeman says. "There are activities in our town that nobody can really convey to each other anymore when you lose that vehicle for getting the news out."

The Gazette papers were owned by Post Community Media, part of the Washington Post Co., which sold off several publications in the Washington, D.C., suburbs of Virginia and Maryland. The two Maryland Gazettes are the only papers among the group that are closing. Post Community Media said the Gazettes' close proximity to "strong major metro papers" was a critical factor in the suburban papers' demise. Some major metro papers near the Gazettes include the Baltimore Sun, and of course, The Washington Post.

"You've got an awful lot of people in Maryland who relied on those papers," Nicholas Benton says. He is the owner and editor in chief of the Falls Church News-Press, a weekly newspaper in Northern Virginia. "The Post basically deserted them."

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Looking For 'Oxygen,' Small Papers Erect Digital Pay Walls

The Gazette papers were causalities in an ongoing struggle to figure out how to keep print media viable. The shutdown means the loss of 69 jobs but it will also affect the readers who got the paper delivered every week.

Without these papers, readers go through a massive withdrawal, says Tonda Rush, chief executive officer of the National Newspaper Association. Not just in Maryland, but all around the country.

The association aims to protect community newspapers, and has been doing so for 130 years. The majority of the papers involved are family owned, and Rush says that local papers run into trouble when they get purchased by a larger company, like the Gazette was in 1993. Even when demand for the paper is high, it can still be shut down.

People who have learned to count on that newspaper find themselves frustrated and worried about if they're involved in civic life, or if their community will be held together.

Tonda Rush, chief executive officer of the National Newspaper Association

"People who have learned to count on that newspaper find themselves frustrated and worried about if they're involved in civic life, or if their community will be held together," Rush says.

The loss of the printed local paper doesn't necessarily signify the death of local news, says Jesse Holcomb, a senior researcher at the Pew Research Center. In a recent study of three cities, Pew found that residents most often turn to their local television station instead of their local newspaper.

"Into the near future, as long as the television business model remains stable, it will continue to be an important source of local news," Holcomb says.

Digital-only outlets are also pursuing local news. Last year, Pew counted nearly 500 digital news startups that launched within the past decade, many of which are local outlets. But these aren't exempt from the difficult news climates that have killed local papers.

"Many of these are fragile operations," Holcomb says. Patch.com, for example, is a hyper local-focused digital journalism experiment that has made so many cuts that more than half of the people it employed have lost their jobs.

And sometimes, instead of a newsroom full of reporters working at computers, local news can be as simple as just one person creating a Facebook page. That's what Betsy Freeman did a couple of years ago when the Gazette slowed coverage of Damascus.

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When Betsy Freeman couldn't find enough coverage of her town, she created a community Facebook page.

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The group — Damascus, Maryland — is where she started sharing news and information about the goings-on of her community. She calls the page a "town center," where more than 3,000 members share information about school sporting events, town parades, or what plumbers they like. Sometimes there are posts about traffic accidents, and people check so often that they use the information to take a different way home, Freeman says.

But it's not the Gazette, she says. Losing the paper is an incredibly emotional loss, Freeman adds; people won't have a copy of their graduation announcement or their wedding announcements that they can save or send to relatives.

"The Gazette always made you feel like you were sort of tied together," Freeman says. Now she and her community are left to search for a common thread.

Paige Pfleger is an intern with NPR Digital News.

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A Boy And A Brutal Slaughter In 'Caminar'

Read an excerpt of Caminar

In our Weekend Reads series, NPR's Rachel Martin talks to Meg Medina about Skila Brown's novel, Caminar. The story is inspired by the Guatemalan civil war.

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